Noel:
Community dynamics, evolution, collective management, and how things
unfold. Well, it's probably good stuff to document. If on the
other-hand you want to paint me as the Dr. Claw, well, your going to
have to send me a complete package - the car, the costume, and don't
forget the cat!
Chee
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everyone knows i cannot keep my mouth shut to save my life.
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>
>> If you don't understand this, you don't understand Apache.
> That itself sounds more like communism under Stalin than an open society
> willing to discuss issues.
and *that
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
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>> You can, but you should damned well ask the author of the original email
>> for permission first (and, ideally, you should also ask the persons who
>> are the subject of the email).
>
> Stephen was asked. He has no objections of washi
Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Sure - we talked openly about developer and user attrition.
> Was that bad? Was it better to stay fragment and unable to
> really and properly work with other projects as a single
> community? Yes - attrition comes at a price. Any regrets
> - sure. Would I do it agai
...since Thursday, 23-Sep-2004 12:43:57 PDT, thank you Greg Ames
for putting this live.
If anyone observes any misbehavior please let [EMAIL PROTECTED]
know about it! This release replaces 2.0.51, which introduced some
rather nasty flaws around the Satisfy security directive, and we
are working f
> -Original Message-
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> You make it sound as if the Board was off on a lark, when the fact is
that
> the situation has all too often discussed in many circles, and the
Board
> has been fairly closely monitoring the project for more than two
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Are any of you fine folks planning to be at the Ohio LinuxFest next
weekend?
ohiolinux.org
If so, please drop me a note so we can meet up at some point.
- --
And everyone said, "If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve -
To the hills of t
Sam Ruby wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Since you don't seem sensible to common sense
[snip]
Just don't expect to change people, as it will never happen,
especially if you are attacking them.
Consider taking your own advice.
Thanks, will do.
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECT
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Since you don't seem sensible to common sense
[snip]
Just don't expect to change people, as it will never happen, especially
if you are attacking them.
Consider taking your own advice.
- Sam Ruby
-
To uns
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> The goal initially was to highlight that "The Apache Way"
> speaks highly of the positive sides of meritocracy, but
> ignores any possible 'misuse' of the system.
Actually, I believe that this speaks quite to the opposite of ignoring abuse
of the system, as you put it. An
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
...
I have quoted a fraction of a long mail, with the consent of the "victim".
It's customary to say so in the beginning of the mail.
If that is too much exposure of the Board activities, then I suggest
you take disciplinary actions against me. (Hold on, there aer no
procedure
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...
> Now, since I aired this on community@, I am getting the feeling that this
> is a touchy subject and should not be discussed in open. That worries me
> more. What is there to hide? Why can't I ask for a clarificati
> -Original Message-
> From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> As a non-member of the Avalon community, I've noticed that a rift
opened
> up there from far, far away.
>
> But as my primary project in the Jakarta Community (Turbine) considers
> moving closer to Avalon, I'
On Friday 24 September 2004 20:40, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 07:18, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > The goal initially was to highlight that "The Apache Way" speaks highly
> > of the positive sides of meritocracy, but ignores any possible 'misuse'
> > of the system.
>
> And that
On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 07:18, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Friday 24 September 2004 20:02, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > Perhaps you could explain to the list why you feel it is necessary to
> > air this subject (which was started on a private list) in a semi-public
> > forum like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Friday 24 September 2004 20:02, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Perhaps you could explain to the list why you feel it is necessary to
> air this subject (which was started on a private list) in a semi-public
> forum like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> What is your goal in doing this?
The goal initially wa
Niclas,
Perhaps you could explain to the list why you feel it is necessary to
air this subject (which was started on a private list) in a semi-public
forum like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is your goal in doing this?
-Fitz
On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 05:45, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Friday 24 September 2
On Friday 24 September 2004 17:44, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Could some of the Avalon folks maybe state in a few (!)
> sentences, what is the issue over Avalon / Merlin and the rejected Metro
> proposal?
"Few" is very difficult :o)
Regarding the deferred Metro proposal I have a brief summa
On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 11:18, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
[...]
> That is all well and dandy. But it only reflects the "promotion" aspect, not
> the "demotion" aspect. Example,
>
> * if I am voted in as a committer into a project, and then -1 every vote for
> new committers. Does that quantify as bein
On Friday 24 September 2004 15:08, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> People are invited to join the PMC only if other PMC members see their
> merits and want them to come in, not because there is some rule that
> sums up the commits done or the length of the emails written.
> PMC members are there beca
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
...
in effect anyone could potentially be at the whim of high ranking officers
(Board) and to a lesser degree PMCs(?)
Apache is a meritocracy, not a kolkhoz[1].
People are invited to join the PMC only if other PMC members see their
merits and want them to come in, not becaus
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 September 2004 19:10
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: community@apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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